Current number:
86424
Any other previous number(s):
86324
Notes:
Moved to Long Marston 5/12. Exported to Hungary
Livery:
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• 86424

  31 December 2007 - Ben Williams

  I believe this is partially converted and may be used like 86901/2 but I think this has sat here unused since May 2007?! Also not sure why it wasn't given 86903 if it was to become another load bank loco...?

• 86424

  31 December 2007 - SD0853

  This loco is still an 86/4 and is unmodified.

• 86424

  4 October 2009 - rick pike

  what were NR plans for this loco? hauling test trains?

• 86424

  6 October 2009 - Rob Morel

  original plan was to run overnight on the East Coast Mainline and act as an "ice breaker" keeping the contact wire free of ice during the early hours. As the ECML doesn't have much freight overnight electrically hauled (unlike the WCML) or overnight passenger services( like the MML > Bedford) .Other than a repaint into yellow nothing has changed on the loco unlike 86 253(901) and 86 210 (902) both renumbered as modified with traction motors isolated on one end and various other bolt ons to perform mobile load bank testing. It is these two locos that do the "ice breaking" if required, shame to see 424 (1965 vintage) standing idle especially with news that other 86s are soon to return mainline .. 86 205 (701) and 86 260 (702) wink!

• 86424

  6 October 2009 - rick pike

  thanks for the info,has it ever been used in anger? the 86/9s have a lower top speed than the 86/2 and 86/4s dont they? is it something to do with the load bank equpment? and while were on the sudject, how does the mobile load bank work?

• 86424

  7 October 2009 - Rob Morel

  86/9s can do 60mph as running on "half motors". I'll leave someone else to describe the inner technical workings of a mobile load bank but these two specifically converted for the WCML upgrade that employed new lineside technology and something called an "auto transformer site" in little brick buildings at various intervals especially between Milton Kynes and Rugby.

  Lets not forget the old class 84 that did this type of work before.. 84 009 /968021 cut in 1995

  It is often asked why 86 424 does not operate with the rest of the inspection fleet on track inspection/ultrasonic/overhead line test trains especially as they use "diesels" under the wires (73s/31s/37s etc)Two reasons, most of the stock utilises the blue star multiple working equipment which this electric loco does not have and with the centre of testing being at Derby (not wired-yet!) a diesel would have to be used anyhow.

• 86424

  7 October 2009 - Brian Williams

  The idea behind these locos is that the load they take from the OCS causes it to warm up slightly, such that it falls off. A similar idea, but using lineside resistances, is used on CTRL.

  The original French ice-breakers relied on somewhat less sophisticated means- the carbon contact strip was replaced by a piece of steel!

• 5 March 2012 - David Warby

  Passing LNWR today, I noticed that 86424 and 86401 have both been shunted to another part of the depot.

• 17 May 2012 - Dave Warby

  Thanks to mpb56125 on the fourfooteightandahalf forum I have been alerted to the fact that on 3rd May2012, 86424 was moved from Crewe LNWR. Image here courtesy of 'smugmug':

  http://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains2012/May-2012/22737739_Rn7mdg#!i=1826672834&k=5MpngC3&lb=1&s=A

• 20 May 2012 - Ben Williams

  Do we know where to?

• 20 May 2012 - Simon Bendall

  Long Marston