Current number:
975154
Any other previous number(s):
L&Y coach 604 / 12160 / 6533
Notes:
East Lancashire Railway
Livery:
LIGHT GREY
Preservation location:
East Lancashire Railway
Categories:
Preserved vehicles
975xxx series
Exhibition Coaches

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East Lancashire Railway - Bury** *** ****Roger Harris
ELR, Bury Buckley Wells sidings** *** ****Andrew Martin, Greg Hartle
East Lancashire Railway** *** ****Kev Adlam
East Lancashire Railway2013-11-23Royston Morris, Dennis Graham
East Lancashire Railway2011-04-23Ben Williams
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  • 975154

    26 September 2003 - Brian Cuttell

    DB975154 was used as part of an 'Electrification Exhibition Train' connected with the Electrification of the WCML north of Crewe if i remember correctly. It would presumably have contained publicity material concerning the forthcoming electrification letting the public know of those nice new class 87's and mark 3 coaches they were going to get! The train also included DB975152 & DB975153 which were converted from GWR 'Siphon G' vans W1315W & W2771W respectively.

  • 975154

    3 October 2003 - Chas Tallis

    It is now used on the ELR as Tophamhats Circus Coach. Every Thomas event the side doors are opened to reveal several toy monkeys and a toy Tiger behind bars. I'm working Bury Sth Box tomorrow (4/10) and I will obtain a photo. I don't think there is any movement to restore it to its original condition.

  • 975154

    9 February 2004 - Tom Walker

    I think I see the remains of a corridor connection on the front of the unit.

  • 6 October 2013 - Ben Williams

    John Hall has recently sent the following info suggesting this is actually ex M6533....:

    "975152/975153 and 975154 were part of an exhibition train that was running around in the late 1960's formed of four coaches W1315W later 975152, W2771W later 975153, M6513M and M6533M. One of the latter two became 975154. I am of the opinion that 975154 is actually M6533M previously an L&Y coach built in 1910 to diagram 105 as L&Y 604 and later LMS 12160 before being renumbered M6533M.

    My reason for this is that I have received some paperwork that states Exhibition coach M6513M was sold for scrap believed from Springs Branch to C.C.Crump Ltd Connah Quay and delivered on 07/09/1971."

  • 6 October 2013 - Steven Jordan

    My official records concur with Johns 975154 is ex L&Y M6533M

  • 19 October 2021 - Peter Hall

    Recently added to https://rcts.org.uk/carriage-conundrums/ on the RCTS website is Exhibition Train Formations - 1970s https://rcts.org.uk/carriage-conundrums/exhibition-train-formations-1970s/ As already mentioned this Exhibition Van was included in the 'Electrification Exhibition Train' in the early to mid 1970s and observations of the formations it was included in would be welcomed.