Photo of DB966513 at Rugby Goods Yard

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Photo details

  • Rugby Goods Yard
  • 10 December 1975
  • © Stephen Duffell


Your comments

  • Paul Walter Bartlett

    10 March 2018, 12:48:00

    Confusingly it doesn't seem possible to find this on the site as the number goes to 968010 a snowplough.

    I saw this sludge tender at Watford Junction 10/07/76 when it was marked Cond.

  • Ben Williams

    12 March 2018, 08:18:29

    I don't have many details for this number series but thought photo may be of interest. Looks like the use of this number was duplicated on both vehicles.

  • Jon Horswell

    17 March 2018, 11:16:41

    Any steam buffs around able to identify a possible origin for this tender. It looks very vintage to me, and I assume that it would have had a centre set of wheels.

  • John Hall

    17 March 2018, 12:46:24

    DB966513 I have it built in 1880 and condemned at Watford C&W in period 4/76. It was sold for scrap from the LMR Region in period 13/76. Bob Wallace records it as a ZRO ZR309A design code.

  • Martin Allen

    2 June 2018, 11:00:51

    It looks to me very much like a GCR 2-8-0 tender, probably from one of the ex-ROD WW1 surplus locos. I saw a couple of these tenders in the Swindon Works dump in the 1980's

  • justin edwards

    15 March 2021, 10:59:25

    GCR designed Robinson 4000 gallon tender. 105 of these tenders and Robinson 2-8-0 locomotives were purchased by the LNWR and LMS from the War Department in the 1920's and a number of the tenders were converted to sludge carriers. The tenders were built during the First World War so the 1880 date John Hall quotes cannot be correct (I am not doubting John here, official information isn't always right). The two sliding shutters for emptying the tenders contents is a distinctive feature of LMS/LMR sludge tank conversions. The LMS seem to have kept the centre wheelset when they converted tenders (unlike the GWR who went for bottom discharge which meant the centre wheelset had to be removed) and the centre brake block on this tender still seems to be in place so I wonder if the centre wheelset missing is a temporary measure or late change to the tender.

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